Talk:Steve Cropper

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"They wrote sounds"

"The MGs, as instrumental artists, worked because they wrote sounds."

Could the contributor who added the paragraph beginning with this sentence please elaborate? For example you could write:

The MGs, as instrumental artists, worked because they "wrote sounds," focusing on the texture and timbre of their songs instead of melody.

Of course, that example is built on an assumption that I can't support with the existing text; it's not entirely clear what "they wrote sounds" is supposed to mean. Thanks! - Cobra libre 18:27, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

I think this is worth expounding upon, too. I think this paragraph has the spark of an important idea about the MGs, and I'm pretty sure it could be written better, but I'm not sure if I know enough facts do it. Someone help! Sklero 06:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of the Mar-Keys name

The Mar-Keys was a play on the marquee outside of Stax (at the time, called Satellite Records). Cropper, ever astute, figured, "People 'round here don't speak French", hence the spelling.

Peter Guralnick's Sweet Soul Music gives the origin of the name "Mar-Keys" as a play on the word marquis, as many bands at that time based their names on the titles of nobility. Steve Cropper's remark "People 'round here don't speak French" makes much more sense in this context. Is there a source for the statement that the name of the band is a pun on the Stax marquee? - Cobra libre 16:20, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)

I found this reference: [1], and added it to the article. I have no reference to Cropper's french remark, so I removed it from the article (it seems unimportant). Please avoid adding youtube videos as external links, these links are very likely to be broken in the near future. - Fbergo 16:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

nickname

So does anyone know the origin of his nickname? -FZ 16:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. According to Steve in an interview:

"We were on tour with Levon Helm and the RCO All-Stars, and a lot of people may not know that the nucleus of the RCO All Stars band and The Blues brothers are much and the same, cause it's the same horn players and there's also Duck Dunn and myself. And Willie Hall was also on that tour with us. But the guys walked in one day and they said "hey Cropper we got something for you", and they threw me a package and I opened it up, it was this t-shirt that had the epaulets on it, so from that day on they called me 'The Colonel', I guess cause I boss everybody around. I come by it naturally, I spent 7 years in ROTC bossin' everybody around and so I guess no exception, even though I wasn't the band leader but I'm always telling people that I wanna do this or I wanna do that. So they nicknamed me 'The Colonel'".

(I just transcribed this from the audio clip now). --Bbcentral 07:36, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Technique/Equipment

Would this be the right place to write a little about Steve Cropper's technique and equipment? For someone who enjoys such a good reputation in the guitar world there seems to be precious little here. Does anyone have any good sources? Doozy88 15:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cropper used standard Fender Telecasters (White Body and Pickguard, Rosewood Neck) and Fender Tweed Harvard amps (Modern equivalent would be a Fender Reissue 57' Deluxe) Unfortunately, I can't find a concrete source to cite this information. Cyongbld 16:45, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Latest work

According to the iTunes Music Store, Steve Cropper and Felix Cavaliere (formerly of The Young Rascals) released an album entitled Nudge It Up a Notch on July 29, 2008. I think perhaps this information should be added near the end of the article, but I'll leave that to someone more experienced than I am. Joel6653 (talk) 12:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)joel6653[reply]

Place of birth

Dora or Willow Springs, Missouri ? The present article states both places, which would be a neat trick but rather undermines credibility of the article.

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The official Steve Cropper web site, biography page, states that he was born " on a farm near Dora, Missouri". That's conclusive enough. I suspect that the Willow Springs information came from the music website allmusic, which is a less reliable source. I've amended the article accordingly. Twistlethrop (talk) 11:58, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that! I was WP:BOLD, but didn't realize there was previous discussion on this. I have a published source which includes an interview with Cropper stating:

I was born in my aunt's house in Willow Springs, Missouri, on October 21, 1941. My mom was there visiting so I was born in Willow Springs and not in Dora, Missouri, which is where I grew up and where my dad's from. Shortly thereafter, we moved to West Plains, Missouri, which is thirty miles from Dora.^[1]

Feel free to revert if you want. Bkissin (talk) 16:33, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Graham Nash and Manuscript Originals present Off the record : songwriters on songwriting : 25 of the world's most celebrated songs. Kansas City: Andrews McMeel. 2002. p. 38. ISBN 9780740726781.

Sources other than Cropper's official websites

Cropper's official website and front for his Insomnia Studio in Nashville (www.playitsteve.com) supports much of the content of the article, albeit with a perhaps understandable slant. I've cited it as source for some recent edits, but I'm reluctant to overuse a single source. His myspace page doesn't seem to be updated frequently. Does anybody have any pointers to other sources that are as reliable, please? Twistlethrop (talk) 15:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's a guitarworld interview that came out Nov 2024. I came here because in the interview Cropper say he got his first guitar at age eight, not 14, as claimed in this Wikipedia entry. I can't remember my login info and am on my way to an appt. I'll try to get back to this later.

https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/guitarists/steve-cropper-green-onions-brian-may-billy-gibbons 97.115.109.85 (talk) 21:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Who is this person, really?

this person has been credited for contributions or collaborations that simply could not exist. There's mention of "With A Little Help from My Friends," copyrighted and licensed by Beatles and for which no background musician, nor anyone else can take credit. He never worked with John Lennon or Rod Stewart. That would put him in the UK when one article boasts this unknown man made huge contributions to 60s soul music. There was never a Steve Cropper in Booker T and the MGs. He's credited with Otis Redding's "Sitting on the Dock of the Bay," which was a composition by Redding himself with help from Motown's Berry Gordy. The way Society was working in the '60s, I don't think white people were even considered to work with Motown musicians. He's credited with Filmography? A musician ? And playing himself in "Blues Brothers," when there is no Steve Cropper listed in the movie credits.. . There have been too many edits done recently in this article about a man no one ever heard of. This article with edits by "Citation bot" and other unknowns is feeding into once credible magazines. It will feed into AI and social media when no one knows who Steve Cropper is. No one in the music industry ever heard of this man. 2600:8805:C03:800:F97A:9399:6105:30A2 (talk) 20:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He's a well known guy. I'm trying to figure out who would have posted this?

Here's a recent article: https://www.guitarworld.com/artists/guitarists/steve-cropper-green-onions-brian-may-billy-gibbons 97.115.109.85 (talk) 21:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Cropper is on the credits of The Blues Brothers ( 0:22 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw6GsDux-sQ ), and is a founding member of Booker T and the MGs. Every single post from this anonymous person on talk pages in the last few days consists of unsourced trolling regarding the content of each respective article. Fbergo (talk) 16:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Graham Nash and Manuscript Originals present Off the record : songwriters on songwriting : 25 of the world's most celebrated songs. Kansas City: Andrews McMeel. 2002. p. 38. ISBN 9780740726781.

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